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Stanley
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Stanley Challenger Graham
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belle
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Posted - 31/01/2011 : 09:49
Wendy, yes, fiddling about with something, messing about and not concentrating on the task in hand, my understanding of 'footer' too.
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Tizer
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Posted - 31/01/2011 : 09:59
Footer perhaps related to footle, `to loiter aimlessly'.
While looking up those words I saw `fogdog' - strange, I'll leave you to find out for yourselves!
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belle
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Posted - 31/01/2011 : 12:42
plitter has a similar meaning to footer ...I love lowland scots.
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belle
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Posted - 04/02/2011 : 10:36
Now this morning I have been a busy bee and thought to myself ..I shall have earned my elevenses...and I wondered how many of you still have elevenses..I think the term has it origins in the army and tiffin and all that, but the other thing i began to wonder is why eleven..it's not long till lunch/dinner..why not tensies?
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Stanley
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 06:01
Belle. You're right and I've often wondered. Nether Webster or Brewer have anything to say of note. I wonder whether it's because it rolls off the tongue so nicely? Here's a nice little excerpt from the CHSC minute books. Not strictly dialect but getting close!
"Res. That the flock Dresser at Viaduct Shed (Colne) be allowed to build a shop on the spare land but no power to be supplied. [This trade is dead now. A flock dresser was a man who took your old lumpy flock mattress, opened it up, and put the flock through a 'willow' which pulled the tangled lumps apart, allowed any bed bugs or dirt to drop out and re-stuffed your mattress for you with lovely soft flock.]"
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Tizer
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 11:46
"..why eleven..it's not long till lunch/dinner..why not tensies?"
No, that would have us at sixes and sevenses!
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belle
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 18:45
This is what wikepedia has to say.mmm not sure about the fourses...it goes on to say the american custom was for whisky at 11..
In the United Kingdom, Ireland and some Commonwealth realms, elevenses is a snack that is similar to afternoon tea, but eaten in the morning.[1] It is generally less savoury than brunch, and might consist of some cake or biscuits with a cup of tea. The name refers to the time of day that it is taken: around 11 am. The term is first attested, in East Anglia, as elevens (1849), elevenses appearing first in the record in 1889. Along with fourses, it seems originally to have been a lower-class usage, but by the middle of the twentieth century was associated with middle class language and culture.[2]
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Stanley
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 05:23
Packed lunches. 'Bait' round here mostly but I have used 'bagging', might be from my time in Warwickshire. 'Snap' in mines I think. Any more?
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panbiker
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 09:25
Pack Up and Jock come to mind.
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belle
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 10:40
"Piece", in Scotland...more to do with the bread..as kids got "a piece n'jam." offered when hungry, or a wife might ask "what do want on your piece?"
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 13:36
Scotland, "Ghost Robin" , or vice versa, i'm told it 's an expression in the construction industry for being unable to work ?
"You can only make as well as you can measure"
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 13:52
Snap
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Stanley
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Posted - 14/02/2011 : 06:45
We had a discussion round the phrase 'taking the biscuit' a while ago, including the possible origins of the nickname 'Biscuit'. I'm reading Mowatt on 'Britain between the wars' at the moment and came across something that might be an explanation. It certainly fits the timing of the examples I found in the LTP transcripts. (See Ernie Entwistle and Jack Platt.)
In September 1924 a newspaper reported that Ramsay Macdonald, leader of the first Labour government had received 30,000 £1 shares in McVitie and Price, the biscuit company, from Sir Alexander Grant who was given a baronetcy shortly afterwards. Macdonald was pursued in the house and on the street by cries of 'biscuit' and at the time, the affair was referred to as 'taking the biscuit'.It was one of the factors which brought the Labour government down in October 1924.
Could it be the origin?
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Posted - 14/02/2011 : 09:02
Sounds very feasable Stanley. £30,000 in shares would be a very good windfall in 1924 even if you were already the top guy.
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Posted - 14/02/2011 : 10:14
That's a good one , it would be a gift to the opposition if it had come from anywhere else ........
My Dad used an expression some times ...."(left) standing there like cheese at fourpence"... I wonder what the significance of the price was (expensive ?).
He was almost always annoyed when he said it , but occasionally he'd be laughing too .
Has it been "done" here before ?
Edited by - Bradders on 14/02/2011 10:15:46 AM
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