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Callunna
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Posted -  12/07/2011  :  09:11
Tesco are considering opening a store in Barnoldswick.

They claim it will create 175 jobs and keep shoppers in the town, as well as saving local firm L&P Springs.

There are 2 exhibitions taking place this Friday and Saturday for people to gain more information.

Views, anyone? 


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tomket
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37 Posts
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 14:09

Dont worry I won't be slitting my own throat this Xmas !

This is one of the biggest decisions this town has had to make for a while and I think it needs to be serious - Believe me I have a sense of humour and so I have checked Tesco's website and they unfortunately dont stock White Owl cigars so their new store, if it is built, wouldn't be able to help you !
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This is getting a bit "heavy" I too saw the letter in the paper and the points made were much as I see them. this is a local issue and not a global one. I also had a "Calluna" moment today, I went in search of a decent cigar and having been unimpressed by what was available in the Co-op remembered the little shop on the square!!!! "Sorry, we dont stock cigars anymore, there is no call for them" so it will have to wait until I go to Skipton again, and they have "White Owl" cigars in Craven Court. Tomket, I am sure that like the rest of us, you have a sense of humour, could you please let some of it filter through into your posts, it may dilute the acidity, Have a Happy Christmas and a worry free New Year.




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Tardis
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453 Posts
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 14:16
I saw the L&P letter, and it does make me wonder how many retail stores that person has opened in their working career.

As to the asset going to waste, I have seen a comment from Andrew Stephenson that he is in contact with a number of manufacturers looking for space to expand into, which would beg the question why L&P haven't sold to them already and stopped all the planning issues?

Maybe the L&P spokesperson is also a little involved in the whole situation without actually putting out messages from which the company hopes to materially benefit.


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


2021 Posts
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 15:03
No decrease in acidity then!. I can assure you that I am fully aware of where my favourite cigars are available, and also aware that this does not include supermarkets in general, all I wanted was a cigar of an half decent brand, still not available in Barlick. But as a Barlicker of over 70 years I still have the patience to wait for a good cigar with enough left over to field the "incoming" from those with a mission. Understand please that I am not an academic and am born of Cotton Workers, Quarrymen and Sailors, how I think is based not upon what may be gleaned from the websites of massive business enterprises and the like, but upon what I have seen and done, not just here in Barlick, but over a greater part of the World. It is also as well to remember that what suits one, may not suit another, and to temper your ideals with this in mind. If you really want to pitch yourself against some injustice, I can think of many worthwhile causes, unfortunately this cannot be done from the comfort of your home.


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Big Kev
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 15:32


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I also had a "Calluna" moment today, I went in search of a decent cigar and having been unimpressed by what was available in the Co-op remembered the little shop on the square!!!! "Sorry, we dont stock cigars anymore, there is no call for them"

Where has the "can do" attitude gone? When I first moved to Barlick, in 2004, I wanted a maiden, to hang washing on. Steve and Heather Demaine, of the Budgetique, sourced one from "the warehouse" and within a couple of days there it was.

Could your "little shop on the square" not have sourced a cigar for you? Seems to me as though local shopkeepers (not all of them I must add for fear of offending the innocent) are doing the same thing some people believe Tesco will do.

 I must add that I have just been into town and bought the veg, the meat and a bag of logs for the fire. I must also thank Choudry's for entering into the spirit of the season and giving me a Christmas card...


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Whyperion
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 15:43
I suspect Tesco may be dangling more money in front of lands owners than others might be prepared to pay.

I had not realised that there had been some mini-chains in the past ( well the Gas showroom and Greenwoods , these two one closed really across all English locations , and Greenwoods too cut down the number of outlets , not that their stuff ever fitted me - my best clothes came from Tesco when they used to do a limited range back in the 1970s which they then stopped until they started on the mega stores in the early 1980s. Greenwoods clothes though fitted my father in law ).  I now only stock up on clothes at Christmas - got to have some presents these days and they all come by mail order.

 


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 15:46
I did ask for suggestions as to where I might get the required items "Try the Co-op" never mind, I can wait.


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tomket
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37 Posts
Posted - 23/12/2011 : 17:17
It is a shame that some shopkeepers dont help themselves by just saying no I dont have it rathere than offering an alternative supply.

It is pretty difficult to get everything that might be needed in one town.

I suspect any new supermarket built within a 10 mile radius would affect the sales in independent shops.

To prove the point I imagine the town centre was a lot busier than 40 years ago before the growth of the supermarkets.

My dad used to say that if you had your own shop you were second only to doctors in the table of wealth !


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Jax
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 18:00
To prove the point I imagine the town centre was a lot busier than 40 years ago before the growth of the supermarkets.

What does this mean?


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 18:24
I do not believe that a point may be proved by imagination, and I would suggest that as far as numbers are concerned, little has changed, although the reason for being there might have, there are more cafe's now than there were forty years ago, more space to sit weather permitting. But in those days you could fit out a house and household in that area. At the end of the day, many Barlickers go out of town for their main shopping, I cannot see how having some of them do it in town will affect what shops there are. The name Tesco obviously strikes fear into some, yet going there is not compulsory. The more people who shop here can only be for the good, and if the local shops are as good as is made out, then they should have nothing to fear.


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Whyperion
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 23:23
I am surprised Tesco dont seem to have considered the obvious thing, To make a bid to the Co-Operative for their store. Co-Op have sold many outlets on to others in the past , and a bit of extra redevelopment at the front , rear, addition of a mezzanine floor  and even relocating the Police station to elsewhere in Barnoldswick would not be beyond the finances of Tesco to expand on the site and maintain sufficient car parking.


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Bradders
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 01:13
TESCO will have "done their sums"....
If they think a store in the vicinity of Barlick is viable , it will happen....!



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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 03:55
Peter is right, this thread is getting very edgy largely due to Tomket's posts. It would be nice if if she stopped stirring things up. L&L's global profits have nothing to do with the survival of what used to be Wellhouse Springs.

Bradders is right, if Tesco really want a store in Barlick it's 90% certain they will get one eventually. As I said somewhere else, if half the effort was put into promoting local shops as has gone into this anti-Tesco campaign we would be far better off.

I shopped at Tesco by proxy this week, daughter Susan got me three six packs of baked beans that were on offer. Whenever you see tins of baked beans at 25p or lower, fill your boots!

Has anyone noticed that our local osteopath seems to be making a bid for the post of unofficial town leader?


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tomket
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 09:07
My point is an imagination because I was not in Barnoldswick 40 years ago. And for those who don't think anything has changed in Barnoldswick:-

1. Was there a Railway in Barnoldswick ?

2. Did Rolls Royce used to employ more than double what they employ now ?

3. Did Barnoldswick used to be in Yorkshire ?

4. Was the One Stop once a Hillards that was eventually bought by Tesco ?

5. Was Redmans on Church Street a foodstore that was part of a North West chain ?

6. Was Rainhall Drinks once a convenience store.

7. Did there used to be more butchers, Bakers and Greengrocers in the town ?

These are all changes that have happened and some of them have been affected by the growth of the big 4 supermarkets, all of which would have further impacts on the retail environment in the town should they be allowed to build in Barnoldswick. It is not just about Tesco ! It just so happens it is them that have applied for planning permission. 

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I do not believe that a point may be proved by imagination, and I would suggest that as far as numbers are concerned, little has changed, although the reason for being there might have, there are more cafe's now than there were forty years ago, more space to sit weather permitting. But in those days you could fit out a house and household in that area. At the end of the day, many Barlickers go out of town for their main shopping, I cannot see how having some of them do it in town will affect what shops there are. The name Tesco obviously strikes fear into some, yet going there is not compulsory. The more people who shop here can only be for the good, and if the local shops are as good as is made out, then they should have nothing to fear.




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tomket
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 09:12

Dont forget Tesco are a global company as well.

Im sorry if things are getting edgy but when the President of the European arm of L& P writes to the local paper then it is he who is not keeping it local, I am merely trying to put a balance to his comments. He maybe should read the website www.tescopoly.org if he wants to see the reasons why the town leaflet makes those statements.Stanley wrote:
Peter is right, this thread is getting very edgy largely due to Tomket's posts. It would be nice if if she stopped stirring things up. L&L's global profits have nothing to do with the survival of what used to be Wellhouse Springs.

Bradders is right, if Tesco really want a store in Barlick it's 90% certain they will get one eventually. As I said somewhere else, if half the effort was put into promoting local shops as has gone into this anti-Tesco campaign we would be far better off.

I shopped at Tesco by proxy this week, daughter Susan got me three six packs of baked beans that were on offer. Whenever you see tins of baked beans at 25p or lower, fill your boots!

Has anyone noticed that our local osteopath seems to be making a bid for the post of unofficial town leader?




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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


2021 Posts
Posted - 24/12/2011 : 09:27
When I was younger, the one stop site was a Church, what has happened in Barlick is an evolutionary process that will have been repeated just about everywhere. If I as a Barlicker can live with this change, and appreciate that whilst some things have improved and others have declined, giving me an history lesson is of small value.


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