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Stanley
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Opening text too long so I've moved it to the first response.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 27/10/2010 : 14:44
Slopstone was the common name for a shallow stone sink, common in houses before porcelain pottery sinks.
I always knew drainers as drainers, not sure when they first came in but common with the pottery sinks, what is now called a 'butler's sink' I think.
Don't have a clue about spanking in that context. I've heard it and used it but no idea of the root.
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 15:52
Just come back from visiting my sister-in-law, she and hubby were talking about Gladstone Terrace in Trawden. There is an archway under two of the house's first floor to allow access to the back. They called it an 'ollerfare' (or could it be 'hollowfare)? I have never heard this word but some other Trawdeners us it for such a place - has anyone else heard of it?
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Posted - 05/11/2010 : 16:49
I wonder if it comes from `holloway' (hollow way) which was the name for a sunken lane between high side earth walls caused by constant erosion from the feet and wheels and the piling up in the fields to make boundaries. My grandma's terraced cottage had an alleyway like you describe leading to a yard at the back. Across the yard was the Scholes Rostron `pop' factory (this was at Furthergate in Blackburn) and the workers could live in the cottages and walk out their back door and across the yard to work. Tied to the company!
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 06:25
Never heard it Moh but sounds feasible. We have one into Hill Street but it's not sunk inot the ground. Ginnel here of course.
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Posted - 06/11/2010 : 12:01
It is not sunk into the ground, by the first floor I meant there are bedrooms above it whilst it is level with the ground floor. Glad no-one else has heard it I can tease hubby some more about his strange Trawden sayings, including all the nicknames they gave people. I hated living in Trawden the people there at the time were very insular. If there were two of them at the bus stop they would ignore you and if there was only one they wanted to know your life story. I was always an offcummed en as mentioned before. The ironic thing is when I began doing my family tree, generations of my ancestors came from Trawden!
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Posted - 07/11/2010 : 08:04
Same as ours here in East Hill/Hill Street. Bog standard ginnel!
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Posted - 07/11/2010 : 11:52
Stanley got the `sunk into the ground' bit from me writing about holloways being sunken lanes.
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 05:11
Had a funny turn and looked up the etymology of 'chimney'. Comes from the Latin 'camera' a closed room, a term that was also used for aspecial closed room with a fire in it to warm it. The word in Latin was also developed to be used for Furnace. Or so says Webster, sounds a bit tenuous to me.
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 13:07
Interestingly the Romans used mainly logs for fires, Some say it was because Charlston Main had not opened when they were here. However, to transport the logs they used a plarform sort of thing, with small sides sticking up, fixed to a a couple of lengths of timber with one wheel at the front between them and two handles at the back for pushing this thing along.
One day, up in what we used to know as Westmoreland, whilst tipping the logs into the fire the conveyance itself fell in, and henceforth the place became known as Barrow in Camera.
Edited by - catgate on 08/11/2010 3:03:41 PM
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 16:29
Sorry Catty but we can't have you misleading the readers like that, even though it is witty. Furness comes from 'Futhbernessa' which in turn derives from the fact it is the Ness or promontory facing the island now called Piel but anciently 'Fouldray' ('Fotherey' in 1327) from the old Norse 'Fuoerey' The Island of 'Fuo'. The ness was called 'Fuoness' originally and this was corrupted over the years to 'Futhbernessa' and later Furness. (Eilert Ekwall)
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 17:59
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Sorry Catty but we can't have you misleading the readers like that, even though it is witty. Furness comes from 'Futhbernessa' which in turn derives from the fact it is the Ness or promontory facing the island now called Piel but anciently 'Fouldray' ('Fotherey' in 1327) from the old Norse 'Fuoerey' The Island of 'Fuo'. The ness was called 'Fuoness' originally and this was corrupted over the years to 'Futhbernessa' and later Furness. (Eilert Ekwall)
My explanation is much less complicated than yours, Stanley, and much easier to remember too.
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Posted - 09/11/2010 : 06:12
But wrong Catty and we are used by many people for research. But you know that...
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Posted - 09/11/2010 : 12:05
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But wrong Catty and we are used by many people for research. But you know that...
Yes. Incredible, isn't it.
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Posted - 10/11/2010 : 07:02
Not incredible, the just reward for solid responsible posting. The LET journo was amazed when he got into this topic, I suspect he'll be including quite a few gobbets in his articles. Question is, will he credit them?
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Posted - 10/11/2010 : 10:15
Is this an Australian idiom or do you (the English) use it too? -
referring to those people who raid the stuff (in the wee hours of the night) that you put out on your curb for council collection before the collectors come, we call them Curb Burglars. 
All thru the fields and meadows gay .... Enjoy
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