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Stanley
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Posted -  11/01/2009  :  06:04
New Year, new topic. If you want to see the old one do a forum search for same title but 2008.


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tripps
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 14:42
What technology was Marx referring to in 1867,   how many working class people bought their own houses, and what credit could they obtain?
I think this is possibly not a real quote from Karl Marx, but has been invented by someone to fit their view  of the current economic troubles.


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Stanley
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 06:33
David, I've had a furtle and it looks as though you may be right. I shall dig deeper......


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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 06:36
The 1125 quotation is accurate. I've checked the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and it is there all right.


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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 06:38
Back to the present... Godrons proposal to alter the law of succession is a minefield. To succeed it will have to modify the position of the CofE as the established church. A good thing in my opinion but can you imagine the backlash? He should be concentrating on more immediate matters. It looks like a smokescreen.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 06:53
If I was Godron I think I would be looking for a new house as a first priority.    Eric Pickles has been claiming the allowance for a second home I think he said it was 37 miles from his own home.

Fiscal Stimulus seems to be a fading mantra, can't see the G20 going for it in a big way. Godron is a busted flush I really think the sand is shifting from under his feet.



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Stanley
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 07:10
News that the man who advocated hanging bankers from lamp posts has been sacked from his job. No details as yet.

I've never accepted Godron's route. Yes, money needs pumping into the economy but the best way to do it is as investment in industry and construction so that as it travels through the system you get the multiplier effect. Shoving it straight into the banks has no such effect. You are taking it out of one hole and dropping it into another. Why don't they read Oneguy?


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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 16:19
The mystery may have been solved.

http://liberation.typepad.com/liberation/2009/01/did-marx-predict-the-current-economic-crisis.html

 It looks as though the quotation has a basis in Das Kapital but not in the form that was going the rounds.


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Tizer
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 16:31
Myths get made "real" by the speed of the Internet and by folk babbling on their mobile phones. Remember when the credit crunch started and everyone was quoting the story that the Chinese word for "crisis" was made up of two characters - one for danger and the other for opportunity. All the bigwigs were quoting it. Nice story. But it's rubbish, completely untrue.

Just like the claims of the Argos web site which sent Mrs Tiz an email to say the table and chairs she had enquired about was now available, 5-day delivery time. We paid online after checking on their postcode widget to make sure it was 5-day delivery to our area too. A few days later we got an email saying sorry there is a delay and we will contact you in early May to give you a date of delivery. So much for 5 days! Mrs Tiz rang them and cancelled the order but they say we won't get out money paid back to our card for about 5 days. What a scam! Just think how much they must make on holding back people's money.


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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 16:42
Well at least you didn't have to deal with a sachet of poisonous mould retardant....  I see the case in the high court rumbles on mainly because Land of Leather are in administration and their insurers are refusing to pay out.


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tripps
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 17:48
I've skimmed through the reference , but the long and short of it is that there is no mystery, the  quote is totally bogus. The rest is jusrt spin from fans of Mr Marx.  Shame really - I've amused myself today, by imagining the expensive techno goods they were buying on credit then. Wasn't that during the US civil war, and the cotton famine etc?  Gold plated  tops and Gucci whips  perhaps.
Be sceptical about everything you read on the net. Despite that, I will probably forget about April 1st again, and fall for most of them...


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Bradders
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 21:18
Doh !.....and I was all for going out and getting a copy of "Das K" to see if he'd got a good line on Lottery Numbers !

On the serious side , the concept of "advanced technology" is an interesting subject.

In Marx's day (1867) the very idea of what is technically possible for us (now) would have been almost unimaginable .

Anyone want to forecast what will be discovered in the next 142 years?

One thing is for sure , our current level of technology will  look pretty crude and old fashioned  in 2151.

And what about 2293.?.....

(I'm convinced that the planet will still be here, and that there will be people on it , by the way, because in the scheme of things , it isn't really very far away)


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frankwilk
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 22:02
Das Kamp is hard work believe me. it dosen't really make a lot of sense.



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frankwilk
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 22:06
Anyone want to forecast what will be discovered in the next 142 years?

We will find out that we still have another 200 years to go before the Nations debt has been settled. Well not us exactly it will be our Great Great  Great Grandchildren.



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Stanley
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Posted - 28/03/2009 : 06:36
A microwave that will freeze things quickly...... Electricity from fusion and perhaps the space towers, they are technically feasible now.


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Posted - 28/03/2009 : 06:42
Just listening to a vegetable grower who used to sell mainly to supermarkets, 80% of his crop. He is now doing 20% to them because they are squeezing growers prices. He gave the example of a cauliflower which he delivers direct to the supermarkets for 36p and they are selling for over £1. He says they are doing the same across the whole range. He can get a fair price on the normal wholesale market with middle men so that's why 80% of his produce is now going there. That squares with Co-op in Barlick, their greengrocery is twice the price of Chaudry's in the Square.


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