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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
NEW VERSION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS WITH SLOW CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT.

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belle
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Posted - 08/09/2011 : 12:04
What's attracting my attention and holding it there is that my youngest is about to get into enormous debt, and having done the sums, most of what is borrowed will go into the pockets of higher learning, leaving them somewhere around £25 a week to live on. Higher learning in this instance has, as yet, sent no written info out regarding course details, book requirements, first week timetables etc, and cannot find accommodation as it's oversubscribed, with about 10 days to go ..i wonder what we are paying for? 
 It's not the NHS that needs overhauling it's the entire strata of our management in the public sector  which has developed a management style that operates like Dick Turpin.."I got your money and there's nothing you can do about it!" whilst on the other hand having no managment skills at all..they used to call them "Wide boys" where I grew up.


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Tardis
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Posted - 08/09/2011 : 15:43
East lancashire into employment is coming over all entrepreneurial

http://www.east-lancs-into-employment.co.uk/

their new campaign is "Helping disabled people start up own businesses"

text ELET22 £2 or £5 or £10 etc (an actual amount with £ sign) to 70070 to donate now


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Tardis
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Posted - 08/09/2011 : 15:44
I actually agree with you, but by extension, the litter bug has never been made to think that what they are doing is socially wrong because they don't think they will get caught.


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Tardis
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Posted - 08/09/2011 : 16:23


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Stanley, I agree about London and the financiers. Also, the equivalent people in New York have said they would welcome the chance to take the places of any who leave London. Mrs Tiz and I have run our own business for the last 15 years. It's been a small business and we've only earned a very modest amount, though we've paid those who worked for us well. If we'd been earning the big money and been on a higher tax level we wouldn't have left the UK just because of higher tax. If we'd been earning that much we'd have been happy to see a higher proportion of our earnings going to tax to help support the NHS etc. The UK is a great place to be and my main quibbles with this country are related to the behaviour of...guess what...big business! But then, that's not much better elsewhere.

there is a problem with this rationale because of all that red book writing that Gordon Brown did

If your business is actually registered in a different country, then people can legally reside and work here but they can then be classified as "Non-doms" and pay only 20% tax on their salaries.

The main issues are that these avenues are not open to people who actually chose to fully live here. You should not be surprised to discover that some people think that minimising taxation legally is something that some folk will do. Thus, why should some of these loopholes be open to some but not to all? I'm sure most people would only like to pay 20% on their earnings. The issue is the inequality of the current scheme

If you actually want to pay more tax, there is also an opportunity for that.

A very little philantropic measure which means that you can donate money to HMRC.



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Another
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Posted - 09/09/2011 : 07:20
Sixty seven years ago today my dad was invading Italy. Nolic


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 09/09/2011 : 07:27
Tiz. From your mouth to God's Ear! Isn't it amazing that we can see these things quite clearly while the miscreants do not. I think the track record of opinion on this site is far better than our Lords and Masters.

Belle, I don't understand the new system (don't bother to explain it!) All I am certain of is that penalising our chidren by loading them with debt is a crime against them. (Add the consequences of PFI as well, even the Audit Office has said it is a rip-off) All education should be free and paid for by the state out of our taxes. It is an investment in the future of the country. The money is there to do it, the problem is that the priorities are wrong. People should be invested in and not ripped off. Few things make me genuinely angry but this is one of them. (Oh, add Health Cuts as well!)


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Stanley
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Posted - 10/09/2011 : 06:01
Comrade, 'His Part in Hitler's Downfall'?


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cloghopper
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Posted - 10/09/2011 : 07:56
SmileNolic, your Grandad went in on the 3rd of September. On the 8th. the ref blew the whistle for half time and Italy changed sides.

cheers,

cloggy 


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Traycle Mine Overseer


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Posted - 10/09/2011 : 08:15
Cloggy, it was my dad but thanks for that - BBC got their dates wrong or else it took him longer than the rest of 50th Div to sail from Sicily!!  Nolic


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Tardis
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Posted - 10/09/2011 : 13:26
Well done your dad

Which unit/brigade etc?


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Another
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Posted - 10/09/2011 : 18:13
Tardis thanks for asking. He was originally in the Dukes West Riding regiment  at the outbreak of war having volunteered before conscription. After guarding Iceland for a couple of years he volunteered for the newly formed parachute regiment but was unable to jump at night without glasses - going down was no problem but he was buggered without them on landing.

In early 1943 he  then transferred to 1st Battalion The Dorsets -supposedly a holding regiment before transfer back to the Dukes but Monty had other ideas and brought them to Tripoli to train as one of his attack Divisions - the 50th commonly known as the Northumbrain Division  but also comprising the Dorsets, the Devons, the Green Howards and various other units.

After an assualt landing in Sicily they did a similar landing in Italy at  Porto Venere on 9th September (not the third as cloggy suggested and I accepted as the main landings took place after the Italians surrendered on the 3rd)   and after a few months of fighting were then brought back to Britain as a full Divional unit.

They continued to train as a unit and realised that something was afoot and on 6th June 1944 at 7.23am they took part in their third assault landing at Arromanches on D Day. 

Dad was badly wounded a few days after D Day and was shipped home with  the back of his right leg missing as a resultg of shrapnel. 

That was the last of his active service,   Nolic 



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Stanley
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Posted - 11/09/2011 : 06:28
Comrade. Lest we forget.....

What grabbed me yesterday was how nice genealogists are. They put up with me rabbiting on at them and walking them round Barlick for almost three hours. I hope they felt I had done good! Mel tried to shove notes in my hand but I told her to post them to Doc for the site expenses. I'll have an easy day today. Janet flies back to Oz tomorrow.....


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Posted - 11/09/2011 : 09:08
It pushed me to re-read Bredin's "Three Assault Landings", the history of the 1st Btn Dorsets from 1943. Nolic


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cloghopper
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Posted - 11/09/2011 : 18:28
SmileWow ! Porto Venere was one hell of a place to do an assault landing in September 1943. Four months ahead of Anzio and about 400  miles North.

Sorry, I had assumed your dad was in the original 3rd. September invasion force. Italy actually surrendered 8th. Sept.

I only invaded with the ice-cream raiders in the 60's. 

cheers,

cloggy 


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Traycle Mine Overseer


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Posted - 11/09/2011 : 19:39
Cloggy. My information from the book referred to above has the landing by 50th Division at Porto San Venere just south of Pizzo in the foot of Italy at  3.00am on the 8th September. Nolic


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