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Sandgroper
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Posted -  05/09/2009  :  09:45
My grandfather always used to say this little rhyme, but I have no idea where it comes from - Lancashire or Yorkshire?

It was of course with a heavy accent!  which unfortunately I cannot quote correctly!

Little Tommy Tiddle Mouse
Jumped o'er our house
Our House crumbled
Little Tommy grumbled

Kay



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Sue
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 09:59
Little Tommy Tiddlemouse
Lived in a little house

but I don't remeber the rest. It was in a nursery rhyme book that my girls had when they were toddlers

 Sue


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Cathy
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 10:12
Hi Sandgroper.
Is this something to do with Mother Goose? 


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Gloria
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 11:56
Little Tommy Tiddlemouse
lived in a little house
Someone's knocking, me oh my
Someone's calling, who am I?


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HerbSG
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 15:36
you are right on Cathy


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Sandgroper
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 16:25
Dont believe it was ever a song, or from Mother Goose - still -  might be wrong.

Granddad only told it to make us children laugh (1940s) especially when said with his Lanc accent.  Thanks everyone for the replies.



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panbiker
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Posted - 05/09/2009 : 17:07
I recollect this rhyme as Tommy Tittlemouse (not Tiddlemouse) and is given as same in this volume of Mother Goose rhymes.


http://books.google.com/books?id=wLdTxADbn-UC&dq=mother+goose&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=zle8LjkOtd&sig=pC6iNcii3zNXAD5krneGCc9JORM&hl=en&ei=W4qiSoukMYvM-Qad--DrDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8#v=onepage&q=&f=false

A bit more googling finds these Illustration references:

http://www.mamalisa.com/?t=hes&p=1510

I also found a possible link to Beatrix Potters character of the same name but the Mother Goose references pre-date. Seems like litte Tommy is resonably cosmopolitan and can be found or heard in many countries.

The Germans made a long armed  bear (similar looking to a Stief bear) with the same name, apparently it's his 100th birthday soon.

Edited by - panbiker on 05/09/2009 17:20:22


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Stanley
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Posted - 10/09/2009 : 08:20
I can remember a very scary nursery rhyme about a girl who was attacked. Was it Lucy Locket lost her pocket?


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Gloria
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Posted - 10/09/2009 : 14:35

Lucy Locket lost her pocket,
Kitty Fisher found it;
Not a penny was there in it,
Only ribbon round it.

The words of the Nursery Rhyme, 'Lucy Lockett' were based on people and places in London during the 1700's. Lucy Lockett was believed to be a barmaid at the Cock public House in Fleet Street, London. This pub, or alehouse was first established in 1554 and rebuilt in 1888. Samuel Pepys mentioned the Cock Alehouse in his diary which stated:

 April 23 1668
"To the Cock Alehouse and drank and eat a lobster, and sang..."

Kitty Fisher was a famous courtesan - Catherine Maria ('Kitty') Fisher (died 1767). Her lifestyle was described as follows:

"She lives in the greatest possible splendor, spends twelve thousand pounds a year, and she is the first of her social class to employ liveried servants..."

The Pocket referred to was the old Middle English word for a pouch or a small bag. The implication is that poor Lucy Lockett made very little money as opposed to the similarly employed Kitty who was envied for her great beauty and vast wealth!


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