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Stanley
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Posted -  21/12/2004  :  15:37
Here's a mystery for you. There isn't an answer yet because I don't know what it is. Here are two pics:


It's some sort of a gauge, made by A G Parker of 69 Icknield Street, Birmingham and on the front is engraved what I believe is the owner's name; Captain J H Square of Kingsbridge. I've put one or two enquiries out and am waiting to hear from them. I think it might be something to do with Guns because I have an idea that A G Parker was one of the founders of Parker-Hale, a company that specialised in gun sights and accessories. Has anyone ever seen anything like it?


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Doc
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Posted - 21/12/2004 : 15:56
They look like Vernier windage and elevation gauges that were used on medium calibre guns to calibrate their fixed sights, AA Guns, 30mm Orlikons etc. The bottom image with the reverse 'R' (Right) & 'L' (Left) would support this.Go to Top of Page
Stanley
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Posted - 22/12/2004 : 04:14
That's my theory as well, it has a Vernier on the side but funnily enough it doesn't match up with the L to R scale on the top. I shall keep digging.


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melteaser
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Posted - 22/12/2004 : 10:44
Haven't got a clue but it looks nice and shiny.
Mel


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Stanley
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Posted - 22/12/2004 : 12:09
It's a lovely thing, that's the reason why I have looked after it all these years and I have always suspected there is a story behind it. I got it in a job lot of stuff when I bought a workshp a long time ago.


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Posted - 10/01/2005 : 11:59
I got a reply about Captain Square. Notice that in 1866 he's noted as being captain of the local rifle volunteers. I think this is pointing towards my theory about this being related to firearms.

CAPTAIN J H SQUARE.

1838.
Devonshire Directory. J H Square, solicitor, Fore Street, Kingsbridge.

1857.
Same entry but address given as Barnfield, Upper Fore Street, Kingsbridge.

1856.
Post office directory of Devonshire. John H Square, solicitor. Commissioner in Chancery, England. Agent for the Atlas Insurance Company. Fore Street.

1866.
Captain of the Devon Rifle Volunteers. 26th Devon Regiment, E Company, based in Kingsbridge.

1866. Clerk to the County Court. Clerk to the Kingsbridge Burial Board.

1868.
Clerk to the Turnpike Trustees.

February 1896.
Celebrated his 80th birthday at Barnfield, Fore Street.

1898.
Retired after 17 years on the Kingsbridge Board of Guardians, Union Road, Kingsbridge.

1898.
Celebrated Golden wedding in Octobber.

Born 1816, died 1903.


1881 Census.
Dwelling: Fore Street.

Census Place: Kingsbridge, Devon, England

Source: FHL Film 1341525 PRO Ref RG1 1 Piece 2183 Folio 5 Page 4

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John Henry SQUARE M 64 M Kingsbridge, Devon, England
Rel: Head
occ: Solicitor
Anna B. SQUARE M 56 F Woolwich, Kent, England
Rel: Wife
Henry SQUARE U 24 M Kingsbridge, Devon, England
Rel: Son
occ: Solicitor
Anna E. SQUARE U 16 F Kingsbridge, Devon, England
Rel: Daur
occ: Scholar
Arthur P. SQUARE 11 M Kingsbridge, Devon, England
Rel: Son
occ: Scholar
Ellen YALLAND U 20 F Loddiswell, Devon, England
Rel~ Serv
occi Servt (Cook)
Sarah J. CHURCHWARD U 19 F Tiverton, Devon, England
Rel: Serv
occ: Servt Housemaid
Mary HANNAFORD U 17 F Kingsbridge, Devon, England
Rel: Serv
om Servt Housemaid

1891 Census

SQUARE John Henry Head M M 74 y Solicitor (Employer) DEV Kingsbridge

SQUARE Anna B Wife M F 66 y UNK -
SQUARE Mary Blanch Dau S F 40 y DEV Kingsbridge
SQUARE Anna E Dau S F 26 y DEV Kingsbridge
SQUARE Arthur Powell Son S M 21 y Medical Student DEV Kingsbridge
HILL Ann Elizabeth Servnt S F 24 y Cook Domestic Servant DEV Kingsbridge
HILL Clara Servnt S F 17 y Housemaid Dom. Serv (Emlee) DEV Kingsbridge
STEVENS Susan Visitr S F 40 y Living On Her Own Means SOM Seaborough





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marilyn
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 07:17
No mystery here!
They are a couple of doo-dads for a couple of wot-nots.
Similar thing-a-ma-jigs to some watzits I've seen somewhere before.
OOOJAKA-PIVIES I strongly suspect.Not your ordinary watcha-machalits either...you can tell that by the doo-flickies on the side.


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Cathy
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 07:29
And I thought this Topic was going to be about a UFO sighting or something......I'm disappointed!! Never Mind.


All thru the fields and meadows gay  ....  Enjoy   
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Stanley
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 07:48
Cathy, this is serious research! I intend to find out more about it......


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lou
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 15:56
A search on Google reveals that AG Parker is one of the founders of Parker-Hale Ltd.AG Parker is described as a 'well-known rifleman of the 1st Battalion Royal Warwickshire regiment' and started manufacturing in 1880.His nephew ATC Hale later became a partner in the firm.
An interesting potted history of the firm is given
at : www.parker-hale.com/about.htm

I see there is a vintage Parker-Hale catalogue 1951 for sale on E-bay.Might you find similar items shown in there?
Start bidding Stanley!!


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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 16:18
Thanks for that Lou, I hadn't got round to the Parker Hale side. I have a contact at Birmingham museum and I was thinking of getting them going on the trail.


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Cathy
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Posted - 13/01/2005 : 07:59
Oops! Sorry . I just remembered that I'm not allowed on this Topic!

Ow's it goin? Stanley.
Don't worry....she'll be right!! Enjoy

Edited by - Cathy on 13 Jan 2005 08:02:26


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Stanley
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Posted - 13/01/2005 : 12:05
Who said you were barred? Nonsense, all contributions gratefully received.


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Doc
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Posted - 13/01/2005 : 22:42
I have also put the question to www.oldguns.net, hopefully we will get an answer soon and it should be posted in the January 2005 section once they get round to doing it.

They have answered a few questions in the past regarding AG Parker, so we will wait and see


TTFN - Doc


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Stanley
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Posted - 14/01/2005 : 05:59
Apart from the demented banana.... The squirrel reminds me of watching one in Northfield MN busily gathering walnuts and hiding them in the wheel arches of the cars parked on the street. I don't know whether it survived the winter.....


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Cathy
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Posted - 17/01/2005 : 10:39
Hang in there guys......I'm sure something will happen soon....true....really...it will...promise!



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