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mick_pye
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I've had a good read around the forum but can't really find anything. I admit this is a bit of needle in a haystack..but I've traced my family back to the Nutters of Far Banks Farm near Newchurch in Pendle.
John Nutter 1777 who married Mary Pollard 1779.
Marriage: 20 Feb 1798 St Mary, Newchurch in Pendle, Lancashire, England
John Nutter - (X), of this Chapelry
Mary Pollard - (X), of this Chapelry
Witness: John Hartley; James Dixon
Married by Banns by: Thos Hugginson Minister
Source: LDS Film 1278872
I think I can trace this line back at least another generation at Newchurch in Pendle but as of yet I'm not 100%.
Being because of the surname and the fact that it is Newchurh in Pendle where it all kicked off...I know it's years later, but I was wondering if anyone knows if this line had any connecton with of course Alice Nutter? It would appear the Nutters owned land around that part of Pendle...so I was wondering if say Far Banks Farm might of belonged to the Alice Nutters family?
A bit of short cut, I guess is what I'm trying to do!..because as I've read Alice Nutters tree is very hard to follow.
My expience is that around here at least pre industrlal revolution most farming families with the same surname were indeed related, though at a distance.
Many thanks.
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mick_pye
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 22:58
Just been reading up on Alice Nutter..very sad. I didn't know she was in her 70's and widowed losing two sons also.
Just found a bit more info on the Pollard connection if anyone is interested or 'surfs in'.
Baptism: 5 Dec 1779 St Mary, Newchurch in Pendle, Lancashire, England
Mary Pollard - Daughter of Thomas Pollard & Mary
Occupation: Farmer
Source: LDS Film 1278872
Burial: 2 Jan 1831 St Mary, Newchurch in Pendle, Lancashire, England
Mary Nutter - Wife of John Nutter
Age: 52
Abode: Far Banks Nr Newchurch
Buried by: J Rushton
Register: Burials 1813 - 1856, Page 85, Entry 675
Source: LDS Film 1278872
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 23:20
Probably her brothers, but occassionaly stated as being her sons. That is incorrect. If you ever get the chance to come upon a book called 'A Cry of Innocence' by Kate Mulholland please try to read it as it tells the story of Alice Nutter and her family at Roughlee Hall between 1583-1612. It's a really good read and very absorbing.
Edited by - Sunray10 on 11/10/2011 01:53:01
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belle
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 09:43
My Nutters seem to have been from Bowling Row..any connection?
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moh
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 13:51
They cannot be her brothers - she was not called Nutter until she married
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 13:56
Yes, I see what you mean moh. Not sure about this issue now. Some duff information somewhere along the way I think.
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moh
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 15:25
There are so many Nutters and nt a lot of proof. People take facts as true when half the time they are copied from someone else. The Colne library has many details of the Nutters, but as I said before no records during the civil war.
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 16:21
Was she from Huncoat Hall? I think we have had this conversation before on here.
Gloria
I'd be dangerous with a brain!!!!!
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belle
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 18:07
I'm hardly back a generation or two, and there are at least 4 john Nutters all born near each other in both location and date..to make matters worse they all married Marys!
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 18:22
Don't you just love it Belle?
I'd be dangerous with a brain!!!!!
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mick_pye
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 21:13
As far as I'm aware this is the will for Alice Nutter's father Giles Whitaker. No mention of Alice though.
Will of Giles Whitaker of Huntcote 1576 Yeoman lists: Burial at Altham; lawful children - James Whittacar, John Whittacar, Genett the wyffe of Edwarde Hole, Christabell the wyff of James Hargreeves; Genett Hole, Issabell Hole, Gyles Whittacar sone of John Whittacar; Witnesses Thomas Holden, Curett, Henrye Whittacar, John Grimerode; Admin prysed by George Yate, Thurston Collynson, Henrye Yate, & Henry Whitticar 19 Oct 1576
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jandjroots/Whittaker/d0005/g0000029.html
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moh
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 13:22
The mystery gets better!!
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mick_pye
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 13:52
I'm only guessing but maybe Gyles Whitaker disconnected Alice because she either stayed or converted to being a Catholic. I'm no expert to say the least on the Dissolution of the Monasteries or the Reformation..but it certainly was illegal to be of the Catholic faith around this time.
This would then explain why her family did not speak up for her at her trail?
Edited by - mick_pye on 14/10/2011 2:41:43 PM
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Posted - 14/10/2011 : 19:49
mick, I think you have hit the nail on the head there. Not a good time to be Catholic.
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mick_pye
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Posted - 19/10/2011 : 02:52
I found this in the Clitheroe Court Rolls.
'At the Halmote held there on Friday the 9 October, 3 & 4
Philip and Mary [1556], Ralph Holden, esquire, by Robert
Durden, greave of Haslingdcn, surrendered a house and 16
acres of land with the course of a spring flowing down from
a parcel of land in the occupations of Thomas Barnes and
James Barnes, parcel of the lordship of Holdcn, in Hasling-
dcn, to the use of Giles Whittaker, Joan Hoylc, wife of
Edward Hoyle, and her two children John and Joan, fur
their lives. Admittance granted ; fine, 5^. 4^/.
Afterwards at this Halmote, Oliver Holden, Richard
Gartsyde, younger son of Francis Gartsyde, William Wright,
Henry Hargreaves, Roger Romsbothom, and Francis Fenton,
by virtue of the commission inrolled above, took of the lords
the residue of the waste of Haslingdcn, to the use of all the'
http://www.archive.org/stream/courtrollsofhono03clit/courtrollsofhono03clit_djvu.txt
My question here is going off the will further up this thread...is Gennet the same name in latin as Joan?
Edited by - mick_pye on 20/10/2011 04:28:45 AM
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moh
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Posted - 19/10/2011 : 11:10
I thought it was Janet or Janette but maybe not.
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The Nutters at Far Banks Farm, Newchurch
