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BenR
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Posted -  17/07/2007  :  12:43

My paternal grandfather, William Curran R or “Mick” to his shipmates was in HMS Southampton from March 1917 to January 1919 when he was demobbed. His extra role was that of gunnery correspondent so he regularly sent back despatches to The Times during his two years of cruising around the North Atlantic. I have his diary from those years, an autograph book over-stuffed with photos, momentos and cuttings of his pieces from The Times. The diary is entitled “The Rough Log of a Longshoreman Afloat” and is assembled with great care and attention to detail.

To my disappointment my Grandpop missed the scuttling of the German fleet in Scapa Flow in June 1919, an event, which fascinates my wife and me since she has actually dived the few remaining wrecks in the Flow. Interestingly these wrecks are now the only remaining source of steel uncontaminated by the radioactive fallout from Chernobyl, so the metal is much prized for making delicate scientific instruments. There is a fascinating book about the salvage of the German fleet, Cox’s Navy by Tony Booth.

Grandpop’s diary contains some fascinating accounts of life aboard Southampton in the closing months of the war. Here’s an excerpt from 1918:

“Off the Norwegian coast, September 2 – 7th – Another breezy trip with a slow-moving convoy. During the middle watch on the 3rd our stern struck a very hard submerged object (probably one of our own or a Hun submarine) very forcibly indeed. The impact gave everybody the idea that we had bumped something very nasty. As yet we don’t know the damage done but we think out starboard propeller has an unhealthy kink in it. Sighted Fair Island in the first dog watch on Sept 6. Arrived off Donybristle on evening of 7th. Examined propellers for defects. Coaled ship till midnight (700 tons). Heart and back-breaking!

Rosyth Dockyard September 16 –18 – Went into dry dock for examination of defective underwater fittings. 150 feet of 1½ wire (such as used as ridge ropes for submarines) found twisted around propeller, which was also cracked. Propeller shaft was slightly bent.”

There are also some interesting accounts of encounters in some northerly fjords with early Russian revolutionaries.

My grandfather went on to work the rest of his life on the night printing press at The Times in London’s Printing House Square. Being a romantic Irishman he was a great character who used to burst into song in restaurants, to the embarrassment of us children. He self-published about a dozen volumes of poems and sea shanties. My father offered the diary to the Imperial War Museum who replied that this part of naval history was already adequately documented but that the diary would probably be useful to anybody wanting to know about daily life in a navy ship of the time. The diary is my only momento of my Grandpop who we rather took for granted at the time, to my regret. I hope one day to transcribe the entire diary to the web but here are a few sample pictures:

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http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/C957/VariousJuly2007015.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/C957/VariousJuly2007009.jpg

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Edited by - BenR on 18 July 2007 15:33:13


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tripps
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 17:25
Great stuff Ben. Thanks for posting. Look forward to seeing some more.


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Stanley
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Posted - 17/07/2007 : 17:34
Good stuff Ben.  I like the reference to coaling.....  nowadays they just couple up the pipes and sit back while the pumps do the work.  There was also the stoking and ashing out, it all had to go into the furnaces and then overboard as clinker and ash.


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Sue
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Posted - 19/07/2007 : 09:21

Wonderful, I particularly like the last one, as it gives me a feel for what it was like for my half great uncle Harold P Widdup who was also in the Naval airforce at that time

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Ribble Rouser
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Posted - 29/12/2007 : 18:53
Fascinating, Ogri...er Ben. priceless. Extraordinary photos and great extracts from the old salt's diary. Thanks for putting it out here. Look forward to more one day...and thanks Mick.

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Simo
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Posted - 14/07/2011 : 11:58
Hi BenR,

Ref My Grandpop in HMS Southampton, for me a most intersting find as I have a copy of the photo showing Lt Price and the Sopwith Camel that was presumably flown off this ship in 1918.

As I am trying to add details to this event I would ask whether the refered to diary contains any other details of the aircraft, it flight (s) and pilot ?

Any help much appreciated.

Regards,

Ian

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thomo
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Posted - 14/07/2011 : 12:15
Hello Ben. Great stuff there, both my Father, and his father were at sea in WW1. My Father who was aboard HMS Thunderer saw both the surrender and the scuttling, Grandads ship was a heavy cruiser, not much more is known. My last CO was Cdr Grey Richards of Anglesey, his Father had pictures published in the times, most were of the Battle of Coronel and the Falklands.
An afterthought;   here we have links to WW1 at sea, and a Mountaineer and photography. My youngest Niece is married to the Grandson of Thomas Ralph Stobart who was the official photographer on the successful 1953 Everest Expedition.


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BenR
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Posted - 14/09/2011 : 15:10
Hello all, sorry; I don't come over to OGFB very often so I'm delighted to read your comments. I have emailed Simo and will have a look for some more on Flt. Lt. Price. I will copy a few more pics onto here since you seemed to enjoy the last few!


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Sunray10
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Posted - 14/09/2011 : 18:13
Lovely old photos Ben, more please when you have time to spare. Thanks for sharing with us.


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Bradders
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Posted - 14/09/2011 : 19:25
Ben ....enjoyed looking at those pictures , Thanks
One thing I noticed was your Grandfather's hand writing .......his use of something like a tiny capital "E" in the lower case ....wonder where he got that from ?



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BenR
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Posted - 15/09/2011 : 08:25
Hmmmm, yes, can't say I had paid it much attention; I just put it down to his rather quirky nature. As I mentioned he went on in later life to self-publish about a dozen small volumes of poems and sea shanties, which I suppose is as good an indication as any that he was a bit of a character. Having lived in France I have adopted the French crossed 7 in my handwriting so maybe he picked up that E somewhere?

Curiously he, my father and I all wrote or write well, I have also had a few bits and pieces published so writing must be something that is passed on in families. 


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