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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
NEW VERSION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS WITH SLOW CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT.

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Bodger
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Posted - 07/06/2011 : 20:05
Bloody hell, come on, league or union rugby, not one soccer player would last 10 minutes, they would all be on stretchers


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Stanley
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 06:12
I think back to the days described by George Singleton in his LTP interview when he talked about the local amateur fottballers who played in their spare time after working all day in the mills meeting in his dad's house to discuss joining the new Football Association. The days when Rugby League men did a full week in the pits and played at weekend. We have come a long way since then and we might do well to try to remember where we started.

Reading between the lines, don't be surprised if you suddenly hear about tropps being withdrawn from Afghanistan. I think the realities of the situation are beginning to dawn on the UN. They are talking about withdrawing the extra troops thrown in during the 'Surge' (remember the surge?). About time!


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Stanley
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 08:12
This caught my attention. LINK. There's a good book in this lot. Funniest story was is of an archer who was so incompetent he shot himeslf in the head! Well done Dr Gunn!


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frankwilk
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 09:13
I think the realities of the situation are beginning to dawn on the UN.

Should that not read US not UN ??
Malcolm Rifkind had a good paper this past week on " There might never be a good time to get out of Afghanistan" it is to do with the Military Commanders believing we are winning the fight, and leaving before we have a settlement.
Adlai Stevenson is quoted " making peace is harder than making war"



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Big Kev
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 12:45
RIP Roy Skelton
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13693811


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panbiker
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Posted - 08/06/2011 : 13:38
"Goodnight Zippy", "Goodnight George", Same guy and both characters at the same time, amazing voice control. Did'nt know that he did the Daleks and other sundry nasties too, "Exterrrrminaate"!!!


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Stanley
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Posted - 09/06/2011 : 07:24
Another RIP from Private Eye. Annette Mills died last month aged 56. Never heard of her? Neither had I. She was the researcher whose work has formed the basis of a lot of revealing content in Private Eye. Her motto was afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. I suspect we shall miss her.

This morning I got mail from my daughter who has just had a major operation on her ear. Basically the structure is now perfect, no more infections and it can be treated like a normal ear. Yippee!!!


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Tizer
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Posted - 09/06/2011 : 09:45
I couldn't find anything about Annette Mills and PE on Google or on the PE web site...but at least I discovered the Private Eye covers library. Wonderful stuff, have a look here:

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers.php


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thomo
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Posted - 09/06/2011 : 14:16
Is this "Gross" or what?!!

Premier League clubs' spending on wages has increased to more than £1.4bn - more than two thirds of their total revenue.

The salary bill among the 20 sides hit an all-time high, at 68% of their collective income of just over £2bn.

While Manchester United 's £132m wage bill represented 46% of the club's revenue, benefactor-backed rivals Manchester City 's £133m accounted for 107%.

Chelsea continued to top the league for spending on salaries, at £174m.

Good Men are dying in Afganwotsit for a damn sight less than that!!



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Stanley
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Posted - 10/06/2011 : 06:36
Tiz, page 32 of issue 1290.  Thomo, and did you see the news yesterday that the FA have pulled the plug on all funding for football for girls? Man City spending 107% of income looks a bit dodgy to me!


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belle
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Posted - 10/06/2011 : 13:05
What attracted my attention today was the Jeremy Vine show's coverage of  the "work programme" the Govt is bringing in today..can't remember who the sepaker was but he said "the govt have rejigged the way they do things in Westminster so thy can use some of the money from the benefit system to fund one or two private sector "Clubs" that will actively get people back in to work...they will not be paid unless it is proving successful but if it is successful it will earn milions for those private companies" ...how on earth did they manage to do this without proper consultation?

Edited by - belle on 10/06/2011 1:06:29 PM


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Stanley
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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 06:38
Belle, I was puzzled by that report as well. I can't understand how on one hand the budget for Youth Services can be cut and on the other hand payments promised to private sector initiatives. This on the day after Rowan Williams was criticised for saying that policies were being initiated with no mandate or consultation.

I think the most likely explanation is the 'outsourcing'  syndrome. The first one I can remember off hand is hospital cleaning. Add IT provision for the NHS, MOD property portfolio, Ordnance factories and military training, even financial outsourcing like PFI. Did any of them prove to be cheaper or more efficient? The next level down if you're searching for the roots of the reasoning is the economic policy based on Monetarism which is based on the theory that the market is self-regulating and the most efficient arbiter of provision. This also has the useful side effect that profit can be made by large corporations from such provision. Probably the most blatent example is the privatisation of war in places like Iraq by employing 'defence contractors'

Beneath this is another level which I think has a bearing. By outsourcing what should be a public non-profit service the administration abdicates responsibility. When something goes wrong the cry is "Not me Guv."  and the finger pointed at the alternative provider. The transfer of the responsibility for NHS fund allocation to GPs comes under this heading and it looks as though the BMA have finally woken up to this.

Complicated isn't it. All far too difficult for us electors to understand so why bother us with it. All part of the machinery of government and an administrative decision. That's how these things can be done without consultation.  The father of an old friend of mine saw through this smoke screen fifty years ago when he railed against Friedman and the Chicago School of Economic who advocated Monetarism, de-regulation of financial services and provision of public services by the private sector. He was a smart cookie!  Taken to its logical conclusion the effect is the moving of the money up the food chain, towards the large capital holders and away from the roots which are actually producing the money by adding value. Biggest con-trick ever perpetrated on the electorate, can you wonder why I am against it?


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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 07:25
Belle, just listening to a report of another cunning ploy. Remember the establishment of independent academies? It appears that the dep of Education has withdrawn the funding from councils which was spent on providing support services like counsellors, help with challenged children etc. Problem is that according to the councils the government took seven times what was spent on these services and they went to court. News this morning is that Michael Gove, advised by the Treasury Solicitors,  has caved in and told the councils that if they withdraw the court action he will 'review the policy'. Watch this space. Yet another Gove U-turn?


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belle
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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 08:14
Thanks for making the process clearer, re how govt gets round things..one small but growing worry is that if the govt is decreasing prison snetences, and withdrawing monetary support for the services that help youngsters with behavioural problems..how will they  govern the resulting threat of more trouble on the streets...more police? or is this also going to be part of the "big sociey?" it's looking to me increasingly like the landed gentry hoarding the riches inside the castle and pulling the drawbridge up to let the 'rabble' get on with it!


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Tizer
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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 16:52
Reading an old geology magazine I found a business news story that I don't remember seeing or hearing in the press at the time. Managers of the Alfred McAlpine slate quarry in Bethesda, Wales, were found to have defrauded the company of £10 million (see this old BBC page). Not only that but it resulted in the loss of 126 jobs and the business being sold for a fraction of its earlier value. What the BBC page doesn't say (but the geology magazine did) was that the internal and external audits of the company had failed to uncover the fraud - it only came to light when McAlpine had to bring in a fraud consultancy to find out where the money had gone. Which means that the board of directors didn't know what was going on in their company, i.e. they had lost control. Staggering isn't it? But it's this sort of thing that worries me now about both private and public organisations in the UK (and probably elsewhere too) - corruption, fraud, misrepresentation, errors, customer abuse etc all seem to be accepted as part of business life and the activities of large organisations.


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