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Sue
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The last couple of years , the artists and semi artists amongst us have had a go at painting the same picture. is anyone up for it this year
Sue
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Sue
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Posted - 24/03/2010 : 16:14
Yes I do like it.
Thanks for the comment Belle. The actual stonework was rather bland, but I used Terry Harrisons method of painting stonework. It took some time but I enjoyed doing it
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blokman
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Posted - 24/03/2010 : 23:53
Lovely painting of a flower, it is acredit to your daughter.
Like the stonework, Sue, what colours did you use to get that effect and what method does Terry Harrison use?
I have seen him put on an undercoat of watercolour, then overpaint with a different colour and then scrape off with a credit card to achieve some very good effects, particularly when painting rocks etc.
Went over to Ken Bromley art at Bolton yesterday to stock up on loxley canvas boards and the bargain price WN artist oil paint, excellent shop but bad to find.
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 17:29
I did an underwash of very pale raw sienna and whilst wet dropped in bluey grey, darker patches of raw sienna , and a little dark green made from paynes grey and cadmium yellow. I did this particularly at the bottom of the wall which was very mossy on the original photo. I then mixed a range of colours from the colours just named , plus a pinky brown from burnt sienna and rose madder, For the large cream stones, I repeated the first wash and added a small amount of Paynes grey and the dark green in patches, depending on the postion of the stone in the picture.
For the main wall I then did random blocks and shapes of the colours. I tried to mimic the variety of shapes that i saw in the original wall but by no means is this a copy . I was wanting an effect rather than an accurate image , Each block then had a hint of a second colour dropped in when the stone was still wet. Towards the bottom I used the green for this second colour. When the stones dried out I very finely underlined the out line of the bottom edge with the dark gray . This creates a 3 D effect .This is the technique in Terry Harrisons book Terrys Top Tips for watercolour Artists a book well worth buying
In the photo the back wall was dull rendering . I changed this to rendering coming off the wall showing stones undernreath. Using a rigger and paynes grey I painted a few fine lines like cracks, I then created a patch of stones as before. To create the effect of the rendering falling off, i outlined the whole of this patch with the paynes grey.
I am still unhappy about the dark shadows on the door as I don't feel they create the 3D effect that I wanted as the door had raised panels. I have been given some suggestions today by a friend and will titivate that part of the picture
Hope you understand the technique, it is on page 81/82 in the book . I did a few trial runs before I had a go .( Infact the stone bridge over the canal we did at Christmas was done using the same basic technique.) The original wall lacked any colour at all but it seemed very bland and dull.
Creating the cobbled path was harder as I had to work that one out for myself!!!
Sue
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 17:31
PS I use the scraping technique a lot in my Monday Art class and was very happy with it till I tried this. I found the whole procedure time consumeing but very very absorbing and relaxing . The wall alone took nearly 90 minutes
Sue
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Julie in Norfolk
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 07:56
I have a mind (if I can remember where I put it) to paint a pic this coming fortnight, I have all the materials and want to include other stuff to stick on. I have an (everchanging) image in my mind of what effect I want and it is just the central subject matter that I am struggling with. I think it will have to be a big (huge) flower or a dancer or the like. Gold sheet and jewellery stuff will give different effects depending upon the lighting. Or the other idea is a medieval type picture as they use the colour pallet that I am thinking about. Crikey, I will have to get started.
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 08:47
Go for it Julie...Sue your answer to Blokkky about how you achieved the stone effects on the wall filed me with the same dismay I used to feel when going to art classes... after 40 years of painting I still don't know the names of the colours, let alone how I achieve the effects I achieve.. I guess I will never be your typical watercolourist!
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blokman
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 09:14
That isa relief, Belle, I have to admit I can't remember the colours, you just know what looks right and when it works it is a very satisfying feeling.
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Sue
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 09:36
hey I only know those names cos we use the same ones every Monday night , and as I never clean my palette I forget the names and the colours on my palette so i have written them on in indelible ink!!
I would normally have said , dirty yellow , pale grey , mucky green . I thought he would want a technical answer!
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 09:59
Hi Sue certainly no criticism of your answer, it was absolutey spot on and my pallete both oil and watercolour is a mess.
The truth is that if I go to buy new tubes of paint, I have to look them up in the catalogue!!
My initial feeling when I took up painting three years ago,( and I remember coming on here and asking advice on colours etc and for nthat I am extremely grateful) was that you could never be a "proper" artist without formal training.
I am coming to realise that formal training can sometimes be a straight jacket and can narrow your freedom to experiment.
Anyway, how are we all progressing with the still life, I keep getting interrupted but will crack on asap......
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 10:10
Belle said she chooses colours by instinct . That is exactly how I chose those colours , they just happen to be the ones on my palette and that I am familiar with. Hope you give the technique a try , its a bit different from your normal approach, I know
Not touched the still life yet , I have been indulging in my other hobbies at the moment, ie sewing and machine knitting
Sue
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 11:30
Sue no criticism intended...I am always slightly awed by Art speak in the same way I am awed by latin names for things in gardens..but it's no good my brain just can't retain them. I would agree with what you said Blokky, training has it's plusses (nearly had pulses!!) and minuses. I have none so i have to think it is possible to be an artist with out it, but many who have had training can get stuck in "this is the right way " to do something, no right, no wrong in art... that's my motto!
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 16:34
I know no criticism was intended Belle. I suppose the scientist in me wanted to explain things precisely . I agree with you completely about getting 'stuck' in ways to do things. However those who have natural flair are able to just create by trial and error. My friend Wendy is like that. I am not . I wanted to paint but had no idea how to start. I have never been a trial and error person and I don't like to mess. I hate getting mucky with paint.. Whatever I do I like to be shown first and adapt afterwards. therefore I am one of those who has needed some degree of training . I think it has paid off and now I am having ago myself by trying and adapting different techniques. As for colours, anything other than ones mentioned , plus ultramarine and I am completely lost!
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Stanley
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 17:12
Sue, I was exactly the same with turning on a lathe. I needed Newton to get my feet on the ladder. These things can be complicated and no shame in needing some help not to invent the wheel again!
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Sue
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 19:31
Exactly Stanley. Have some lessons, gain confidence and away you go
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Stanley
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Posted - 27/03/2010 : 07:18
Problem is though that I never got to be as good as him. I soon learned my limitations and it doesn't worry me now. If I've made something good I like to leave it on the kitchen table for an ornament and just look at it.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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