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Flutterby
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Marilyn-Wet on wet- You really have to use thick watercolourpaper, tube paint is slightly thicker, which i prefer, Wet the paper with a spongefor a large area say you were doing a small area check that a shine has then appeared and with a fully loaded brush with the paint not too thin ,then just put the tip of the brush into the wetness. The paint will float across on its own. Look at the tube and it will tell you about whether its granulated colour which are good for wet in wet, all tubes and pigments have their different ways of performance.Ultramarine is a good one for granulation, as an example. Keep your water clean , change after each colour you use.
Sue- Look out for these if you are in France- Louve Paints- I had some given to me they are in tubesand are excellent bright colours with good granulation . I have looked on e-bay but havent seen any here. . The ulramarine beats any ive used for granulation !
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marilyn
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Posted - 16/01/2007 : 21:30
Does the paper dry all buckled then, from having been wet?
Can this only be done with water colours?
I remember back in high school, doing paintings on a 'washed' background. We had sinks full of colours and dipped the whole paper in (which I seem to feel had a shiny texture to it....it wasn't ordinary paper). It was great fun, and gave wonderful colours to the sky in particular. I have a feeling we did ink drawings on top once dry....using fine brushes.
( I have just popped back to edit this post because after I pushed send, I suddenly had a mental image referring to the above sentences. As I now recall, we kind of laid the paper on top of the sink of paint soluting. I feel the paint solution may have been a combination of colour swirled about....giving that lovely random affect once your paper was lifted off. Why did the colours float I wonder? Perhaps they were oliy ???)
I used to enjoy 'tie-dying' at school too....with all the hot wax and buckets of colour. Extreme fun.
I just love colour....and lots of it.
Edited by - marilyn on 16 January 2007 21:35:16
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 08:19
We used to do a wash at school. You put a line of colour along the top of the paper and then literally washed it down with a wet brush going from side to side. It took up a whole lesson doing that and the week later when it had dried we painted on top of it.
I'd be dangerous with a brain!!!!!
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Sue
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 09:15
Marilyn, If you stretch your paper first it doesn't buckle, that is where the paper stretcher comes in. Pre wet your paper and put it on the stretcher or attach it to a wooden board ( wood that won't buckle itself), using masking tape. Leave it to dry naturally or use a hair dryer and away you go.
Thanks for the tip on the paints flutterby
Sue
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belle
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 10:15
Didn't know masking tape worked on wet paper, i have always used that gummed brown stuff...very messy, and if you are not careful if it gets to wet and slips it can leave gum on the paper which interferes with how the paint stays on .
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belle
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 10:26
I can see now why you have started this topic again, Flutters, i went on the original one and the reply box has dissappeared... ? Vee I love your enthusiasm, but those b........y smiley things I find very irritating , and you do seem to put them on every post.....I suppose i would be considered a kill joy if I asked you to tone it down a bit....?
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marilyn
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 11:21
S t r e t c h my paper?
With my luck?!?
(RRrrrrripp!)
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Sue
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 13:55
I think it works. I have never done it. My friend did my paper for me until I got a paper stretcher!!!
Sue
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belle
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 16:06
It's not exactly that you stretch the paper, wetting it does that, you just have to make sure it's held tight, so that when it dries, and shrinks, it doesn't buckle. The traditional method is to use wet sticky gum paper to tape all the sides down onto a board, whilst the paper is still wet. so that it is held taut once it has dried.
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Flutterby
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 16:58
There,s a defintate knack to stretching paper , i use the brown gummed tape sponged not over wetting but then often use masking tape. I think you just have to try different ways as people are different. I dont follow rules and often stuff isnt succesfull but sometimes doing things quite spontaniously you get a suprise result !Then again it depends on the style of art you like, i love colour. i like the way Rolf Harris paints , when i watch him and big pro,s like that i think i will give up! But i plod on and am so chuffed when i create something that,s liked! |
Sue
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Posted - 17/01/2007 : 19:05
i like my paper stretcher, dead easy
Sue
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Stanley
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 07:07
Maz, If you look at some old books, especially ledgers, you'll see that the end papers inside the cover have a swirled ink pattern on them. I always wondered how they did it. Exactly what you describe, a swirling pattern of different coloured inks.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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belle
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 09:17
I'm like you Flutter's, I don't go in for rules when it comes to Art, one of my favourite methods of applying Acrylic is with my fingers . I wear thin nyoprene (Is that the right word?) gloves, and just manipulate the paint round the board...it appeals to the sculptor in me, though you do go through a couple of pairs of gloves as the finger ends tend to come through.
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Another
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 10:45
Tinker, have youy tried twigs and sticks for acrylics - ends cut to differnet shapes and when you've used them just throw them away - or make them into a collage. Nolic
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Flutterby
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Posted - 18/01/2007 : 21:03
I like using acrylic, andhave been teaching myself through various step ,by step methods. I love the strong colours.it gives Ive been using a fan brush and mixing gloss medium to get natural petal effects. Just having realized to start with a wet brush and reading the basics to get me into the swing of it. I also have been using tissue paper and p.v a on a large collage on watercolour paper is quite freeing and something different,Emulsion painting the background , think i might try bubblewrap for adding texture,pressing it in to the wet paint. |
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 08:54
One of the nices surfaces to paint on is polyfilla. Coat a piece of thick card or board with a thinish paste of polyfill and let it dry. When dry sand off some of the points and ridges leaving you with a nice textured finish and an ideal key for acrylics. Nolic
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