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Sue
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The last couple of years , the artists and semi artists amongst us have had a go at painting the same picture. is anyone up for it this year
Sue
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Sue
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 18:34
I also prefer poils but have been less keen to dable by myself. I need a few more colours to avoid my green sky that I had with the canal bridge!!
Today I started a watercolour of an old dorrway in France. We took the picture this summer and decided to give it a go in my fortnightly art class. In this one we have demonstrations of Art techniques, but actually do our own thing. It will take me a few sessions to finish, but I am pleased so far
Sue
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blokman
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 18:41
That was quick Belle I have never tried pastel, but the results are very effective...
Is it a special paper or can you use watercolour paper?
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Sue
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Posted - 05/03/2010 : 23:42
You can use watercolour or special paper, even sandpaper. you need a paper witha 'tooth' for best effects
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blokman
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 11:55
Thanks Sue, they seem a very versatile medium.........
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belle
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 12:36
Blokkky, I love pastels, they are very easy to use, no colour mixing and you can correct anything you don't like . Sue is right you can use almost any kind of paper with a tooth, but there are other things to bear in mind.. sandpaper for instance would eat up the pastels very quickly, water colour paper isn't designed for pastels but the rougher type does ok, though it makes for a less clear picture. Pastel paper is expensive but like all art if you are tackling something you want to preserve , the best materials work best. Cheap pastels are very chalky and don't hold the paper well, good makes are more creamy, easier to blend, and cause less dust. My biggest tip is that if you want to do a quick sketch, like i did above, use sugar paper, it holds the pastel (though not as well as pastel paper) and costs only 99p for a pack of about 10 large sheets. The colours are often more interesting than pastel paper too.
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blokman
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 13:21
Its a whole new world Belle, would these be oil patels, like crayons that you are using?
Can you create sharp detail with them and if so how....
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 16:40
No not oil pastels,they are a different beast altogether, I call them chalk pastels to differentiate them but they are known only as pastels, and of course the chalkier they are the worse they are, so perhaps it isn't the best way to differentiate them! They are sold in boxes of multi colours, nowadays often with assorted colours of 'landscapes' in one box, and 'portraits' in another.. but that isn't really that helpful if you want a cross section as you would have to but two boxes. They also are sold singly, very useful for the extra whites that are always needed. Once on the paper, marks can be softened by a clean finger or a cloth, and blended together, and the colour of paper you choose is part of the overall colour of your finished piece of work.
They are made of pure pigment fixed with glues, and because of this they are the most permenant mark you can make, though they need to be fixed onto the paper with either fixative or hair spray (the cheaper option)when you have finished the piece. You can work on over a fixed picutre but you cannot remove marks once they are fixed.
They operate more like oils than watercolour, in that you add the highlights last rather than leaving white paper to make them, and for me this is much more satisfactory than working backwards!
I prefer the square ones to the round ones as I can get sharper edges and detail with them, it takes a bit of practice to make the mark in the right place as they are wider than pencils, but you soon get the hang of it. My first box was Rowney, and I have not bettered the quality, though some of the fat cigar shaped whites I have bought singly, which are foreign, appear to be slightly superior. I will see if I can put an eg on here of detailed work with them .. to me
there aren't limitations, but not everyo ne finds them easy.
Edited by - belle on 06/03/2010 4:41:43 PM
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belle
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 16:43
Don't know why the last sentence got split.
Blokky this is a picture I did a few years ago, given that the paper is no bigger than A4 you can see I was able to do the fine detail of the fingers perfectly well with pastel, hope that illustrates the point for you.
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Stanley
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 16:55
I am constantly amazed by the talent on this site. Even reproduced so small that is very well detailed Belle. Wonderful.
Have any of you looked at the video on steeplejack's corner? It's by a former steeplejack illustrating an accident he was involved in and it's animated. Quite brilliant, well worth having a look at it.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Sue
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 17:56
I love the effects of pastel but I don't like the chalky feeling , it 'goes through me' I have recently bought some pastel pencils but haven't tried them yet . By the way ebay is an excellent source of cheap art materials. I have bought a couple of things, and my friend bought a set of excellent watercolour paints
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blokman
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Posted - 06/03/2010 : 19:24
That is fantastic Belle and clearly you can produce a very detailed picture with the pastels.
I am probably best sticking with oil for a while, and it was the watercolours during the previous two years so perhaps will have a go next year.
Stanley, Toms animation or Toms mates' is quite superb, a very sobering depiction of what can happen without a bit of forward planning.....
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Stanley
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Posted - 07/03/2010 : 05:52
Robin, it should be used as a training video.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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blokman
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Posted - 07/03/2010 : 18:19
 Before I get started on the still life, here is an oil that I have done of Towneley Park....
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Sue
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Posted - 07/03/2010 : 19:44
love the trees
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belle
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 09:09
How do i make the pictures posted bigger so I can see the detail? on other sites you just click on them but that doesn't seem to work on here? any suggestions?
Blokky, I am not so sure you should take up pastels as the medium of oils seems to suit you very well, have you thought of using oil pastels in an oil painting, you can use all the usual thinning mediums on them and work them into the surrounding painting very successfully....i haven't tried it but I know other artists who have, and say it works well.
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