Click here to register on OneGuyFromBarlick|2|1
Go to Page
  First Page  Previous Page    74  75  76  [77]  78  79   Next Page  Last Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted -  25/11/2004  :  14:20
I've always been fascinated by the things people do in their spare time when they can do exactly what they want to do. Men and sheds are a particularly fertile field. Women tend to do their thing in the comfort of the house.



I was delighted to see Andy's picture of the clock movement he has made.







It struck me that we could perhaps start a new topic devoted to spare time skill. So Andy starts it off and my contribution is this:







It's a small steam engine made from scratch and is based on the Stuart 5A but a longer stroke. One of these will drive a 14 foot boat with steam at 250psi. By the way, we don't like to call them models, it's exactly the same construction and materials as a full size engine, just smaller. So come on out there, let's hear about what you make in your spare time. I reckon we could be in for some surprises!


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk
Replies
Author
Go to Page
  First Page  Previous Page    74  75  76  [77]  78  79   Next Page  Last Page
 
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 08:48
Thanks for all that, I shall have to make some enquiries.  I/m wondering if the process of making plywood kills the wasps anyway.


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
Ringo
Site Administrator


3793 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 09:10

International guidelines for the movement of wood packaging material have been devised to prevent pest introductions.

With increased movement of goods in international trade during the past few decades, forest pests and pathogens now cross oceans as easily and as quickly as ships, planes and people do. Regulations exist to prevent the spread of forest pests through movement of timber and wood products in international trade. But even goods that are not normally subjected to phytosanitary inspection – from cars to clothing to computers – can be packaged using wood, and pests often stow away in wood packaging material.

Asian longhorned beetle (Anoplophora glabripennis), emerald ash borer (Agrilus planipennis) and brown spruce longhorn beetle (Tetropium fuscum) – tree-killing insects invading woodlands and urban landscapes in North America – are believed to have arrived among packing materials shipped from Asia. Sirex woodwasp (Sirex noctilio) is likely to have entered Argentina, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa in wooden packaging from Europe or North Africa. The red turpentine beetle (Dendroctonus valens) may have found its way to China’s pine forests via packaging made from infested North American wood.

Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, the global phytosanitary community became increasingly aware of risks associated with wood packaging material as a pathway for alien invasive species. Research confirmed the threat. A 1997 audit of 50 wooden spools of wire rope shipped from Asia to Canada, for instance, revealed that 24 percent of the spools contained live wood-boring insects of seven different species, while 31 percent of the spools showed signs of woodborer activity.

In an effort to control the spread of invasive pests, in 2002 the FAO-based Interim Commission on Phytosanitary Measures adopted a global standard for treating wood packaging material: International Standard for Phytosanitary Measures No. 15 (ISPM 15), “Guidelines for regulating wood packaging material in international trade”.

Two treatments are recognized under the standard: heat treatment, in which wood must be heated to a core temperature of 56°C for 30 minutes, and fumigation with methyl bromide. The heat treatment was chosen in consideration of its commercial feasibility and the wide range of pests for which it is documented to be lethal, although some organisms may have a higher thermal tolerance. Methyl bromide is recognized to have negative atmospheric effects and is being phased out by 2005 by the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Decrease the Ozone Layer. The Montreal Protocol exempts quarantine and preshipment uses from the methyl bromide phase-out. However, the fumigation of wood packaging using methyl bromide has raised environmental concerns.

ISPM 15 defines wood packaging material as “wood or wood products (excluding paper products) used in supporting, protecting or carrying a commodity ... including pallets, dunnage, crating, packing blocks, drums, cases, load boards, pallet collars, and skids”. The standard does not apply to packaging made of wood material processed using glue, heat and/or pressure (e.g. plywood, particle board, oriented strand board or veneer) or to sawdust, wood wool or shavings, as these products are considered unlikely to be infested.

Although there is general agreement that such a standard is needed from a plant health perspective, there will clearly be costs associated with its adoption. However, the IPPC judges that these will be outweighed by reductions in both inspection costs and expensive pest problems.

Challenges to harmonized implementation at the global level remain. Australia, Canada, Mexico, New Zealand and the United States started to apply the standard in 2004, but implementation in many other countries is delayed by inadequate facilities, lack of import or export certification systems and, in some developing countries, lack of resources both to educate manufacturers and exporters and to implement treatment procedures and enforcement mechanisms.

It is critical that the implementation of the standard have a minimal disruptive effect on trade and a minimal impact on individual countries. There will certainly be short-term problems – including potential shortages of treated pallets – and challenges in developing new, safe and economical treatment methods. However, it is expected that the technologies necessary to treat packaging materials will be available in most countries and that the requirement for treatment may even stimulate economic development in some less developed countries.

Despite the challenges, Jamaica is ready to implement ISPM 15 and could become a model for developing nations that want to safeguard their forests and export agreements. Jamaica’s economy depends on export of such goods as agricultural produce, garments, beer, coffee and rum, which are shipped using wooden packaging. The country’s government facilitated ISPM 15 implementation by setting up heat treatment facilities with private pallet manufacturers and adding additional protocols to facilitate methyl bromide fumigation. “We also initiated comprehensive and continuing consultation with stakeholders early in the process, to make them aware of issues and requirements”, says Carol Thomas of Jamaica’s Ministry of Agriculture. Thomas estimates that approximately 70 percent of the country’s export stakeholders – exporters, manufacturers, distilleries, freight forwarders and customs brokers – are aware of the standards and treatment protocols and are preparing to implement them.

An international coalition of more than 40 scientists and plant-protection officials was recently formed to help ensure that development and implementation of standards like ISPM 15 are based on science. The International Forestry Quarantine Research Group (IFQRG), which met for the first time in Rome in February 2004, aims to coordinate global forestry quarantine research. The group provides scientific advice to the International Plant Protection Convention (IPPC) and is affiliated with working group 7.03.12 of the International Union of Forest Research Organizations (IUFRO), Alien Invasive Species in International Trade, which brings together the broader forest science community to deal with forest quarantine issues. IFQRG is working to refine approved treatments and to develop guidelines for submission and evaluation of new treatments under ISPM 15. New treatments are important to provide more options for the wood packaging industry and to address concerns regarding the heat treatment and the use of methyl bromide.

In the meantime, workshops are being set up to help all countries prepare for implementation of ISPM 15. The first, organized by the North American Plant Protection Organization, will be held in September 2004 in Mexico and will focus on concerns of North and Central American countries (for details, contact Manuel Mejia, mejiam@inspection.gc.ca). A second regional workshop is planned for South America later in 2004. In February 2005, Canada will host a global workshop in partnership with the IPPC (see www.ippc.int). In addition, a list-serve forum facilitates global discussion and helps identify and address questions regarding ISPM 15 implementation (www.forestry-quarantine.org).


Click for Skipton, United Kingdom Forecast
Go to Top of Page
Gugger
Regular Member


61 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 09:22
Stanley,

Forget that idea about the plywood. The best thing is to contact one of the big packing companies to see if you can obtain some treated timber.Since the regulations apply now to many countries, clever packing companies have now only treated timber in stock. Be aware, many of the smaller companies in your country are not aware of the problem.

With the timber you must get also a certificate confirming the treatment. That paper must go with the shipping papers.
 Apparently it should be possible to treat smaller boxes from private persons somewhere at the Manchester Airport. I am awaiting detailed information from my reliable sources. I will keep you informed.

Walter



Go to Top of Page
Gugger
Regular Member


61 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 09:31
http://www.fumigation.co.uk/australia.htm


Go to Top of Page
Gugger
Regular Member


61 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 09:38
Stanley,

It is me again, just received information regarding contacts:

Contacts in Manchester:

Carl Andrew : carl@neillbrown.com

Colin Moody : colin@neillbrown.com

Mob.: 0044 797 0947 513

Home 0044 1482 812 904

Walter



Go to Top of Page
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 10:11
Walter, It looks as though I have stepped into a minefield and I am in your debt.  I am chasing the contacts and will report back.


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
Gugger
Regular Member


61 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 10:45
Stanley,

Just fly over the minefield. In debt? Remember September 07.

Walter


Go to Top of Page
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 11:22
Yes I know Walter.......  Right!  Nell Brown's couldn't help me but gave me the name of a family firm in Hull who specialise in these matters and are bang up to date with the entirely sensible Australian regulations.  Crating Solutions would you believe.  I talked to a nice young man called Mark who was very helpful and said that Fremantle and Perth (where these are going) are the strictest entry points in the country.  I have sent him all the details and they are going to make me a certified crate and send it over to me.  I am not going round looking for quotes and haven't even asked the price.  I've found the right man and he treated me well. 

They are making a crate with internal measurements like mine and also restraining plates for the cylinder tops which will be blank but I'll cut them to suit. So.  A bit of a problem but thanks to my mates we have a quick and easy solution.  Next job is to cut the old crate up for firewood........ 


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 14:11
Later on Thursday.  We have a straight edge again.  The engines are back on the working surface in the kitchen.  The packing case is in pieces and ready to go out in the shed when it's dry.  All the sawdust is vacuumed off the workshop floor, the tools put away and I'm doing nothing else today.  As soon as I have either the case or word from Mark I'll set my mind to exporting engines again.  A bit of a relax with Sherlock Holmes on afternoon telly I think.  The case was a bit of a disappontment of course but these things happen.  Once again thanks to you all, the pitfall was even bigger than I thought.  If a non certificated case arrives in Fremantle the authorities have power to repack the contents, destroy the old case under hazardous waste conditions and charge an arm and a leg for the process.  The other alternativ of course is for them to refuse to accept the case and ship it back to UK at your expense.......  Thank God for OGFB.


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 17:08
We hit another problem......  The case will cost less than £50 fully certificated which I reckon is dirt cheap.  The carrier to get it over to me in Barlick will cost more than that!  So, another rethink....  Crating Solutions have their own transport and deliver in Manchester every Thursday.  I have a mate, John Ingoe who lives and works 400 yards from Junction 19 on the M62.  Mark at crating Solutions has agreed to drop it off there and John says he'll bring it over to me.  Mark says they will make the crate in time for next Thursday's delivery.  It all goes to prove that it's a good thing to have friends.  Somewhere I must have done something good.  By the way, Mark hasn't seen any money off me yet, he must be as trusting as I am.  I hope it doesn't get him into any trouble.


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
panbiker
Senior Member


2301 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 17:22
Good business acumen Stanley, he probably senses from your demeanor than you are an OK guy and no doubt the spin off will be good publicity for their services. I assume you will have mentioned OG and the number of hits the site gets etc. Your tribulations and the solution will get spidered through the search engines which can only be a good thing for the company in question. As you say a good job you posted your progress on the site and that the "Shed" is watched from all over the world. Good progress so far I think.

I had never heard of the Sirex Wasp until Walters post, I have learnt something trolling for information, I bet you have learn't a lot more though!

Edited by - panbiker on 10/01/2008 17:31:40


Ian Go to Top of Page
A.J. Richer
Werebeagle


24 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 18:24
> the Sirex Wasp

Wasn't that built by DeHavilands between the wars? Used for forward reconnaissance duties I recall....


 :)

 On a more serious note, that's a good thing to know - i occasionally have to send items overseas, and have always used paper products as packing materials.  

                           Alan


Go to Top of Page
Gugger
Regular Member


61 Posts
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 20:08
Alan,

Paper takes on moister, so depending what goods you pack it can be critical. The modern packing materials are safer.

Walter


Go to Top of Page
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 07:55
Ian, the same thought has struck me and I'm going to put a topic up that will be easily indexed by the spiders giving the full SP.  The thing that struck me was that none of the shipping companies mentioned anything about it.  As John Ingoe said, why should they.  They stand to get the return freight X 2!  Definitely a learning curve and an expensive mistake avoided.  I think I like Walter..........


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 11/01/2008 : 07:57
PS.  I did ask Mark how the authorities would know that the crate was certified.  He tells me that they print a code on it which identifies Crating Solutions and the certification.


Stanley Challenger Graham




Barlick View
stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk Go to Top of Page
Topic is 92 Pages Long:
Go to Page
  First Page  Previous Page    74  75  76  [77]  78  79   Next Page  Last Page
 


Set us as your default homepage Bookmark us Privacy   Copyright © 2004-2011 www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk All Rights Reserved. Design by: Frost SkyPortal.net Go To Top Of Page

Page load time - 0.688