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Tizer
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Posted -  21/12/2007  :  11:56
I have uploaded my first picture to the Barlick site I hope to be able to add it in this thread if/when it gets approval from Doc. It is a postcard from the 1940s entitled Winged Heroes and showing Hawker Hurricanes. (The picture is in the next post if you are on page 1 of the thread; if you are on another page you need to go back tp page 1 to see it.)

Please feel free to add your own stories, pictures or comments regarding everything to do with aeroplanes and their pilots, both past and present.

Edited by - Tizer on 11/11/2010 15:11:42


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Ribble Rouser
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 15:02
Pilatus P-2 of 1945. Often used in movies as a Luftwaffe type...remember the 'German' fighters in the Indiana Jones films? Design actually utilises components taken from decommissioned Me 109s:

http://www.airteamimages.com/30514.html


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panbiker
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 17:40
Well, you seem to have nailed that one fair and square John. I went on one website that said that there are no remaining Me 109's left flying. Find this a bit hard to believe. A classic aircraft of it's time and one of the main adversaries. Any definitive on this John?


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Tizer
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 20:13
RR, no doubt about it - well done! Now I can get Doc to change the caption on the picture in the database to show its true identity. Thanks for the help.


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softsuvner
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 23:41
Well done RR!

I never considered that it might be an imposter, if it had been a bike or a car that would have been the first thing on my mind. Happened a lot of course, Tiger Moths impersonating First War planes etc. Funny that some of the most accurate replicas were made for "Those Magnificent Men......" a film where you would have thought they would have made loads of compromises.

I am sure that Duxford used to have a flying Me 109, I've seen it, did it crash?

Malcolm


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panbiker
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Posted - 08/02/2008 : 19:53
Everyone keep their fingers crossed! At the end of June this year (see calendar) B.E Bosom Friends (local cancer charity support group) are holding a 1940's day down at Rolls. I am on the organising side of things, just sent off the application forms to the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF) for a fly past or display for the event. We ticked all the boxes for any (or all) Spitfire, Hurricane, Lancaster and Halifax. The map with Latitude and Longitude along with a note outlining Barlicks connection with RR and the Merlin hopefully will bear fruit. Lets hope they can fit us in to their extremely busy schedule. The throb of Merlin and Griffon, something to look forward to in summer.

Edited by - panbiker on 08/02/2008 19:54:27


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softsuvner
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Posted - 08/02/2008 : 21:36
Ian

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. I often see (or sometimes hear) the BBFwhen they are off to airshows in the summer if they are flying South.
Incidentally, a colleague who is an aircraft twitcher, tells me that there are several Me 109's still flying, including one private one in this country. The Duxford one that I remember, had a "heavy" landing and is now a static exhibit in Hendon. He did say that he thought that some of them were licence built Spanish jobs though.

Malcolm


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panbiker
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Posted - 08/02/2008 : 22:26
Interesting on the Bf 109 Malcolm, I went for a search round and found this link.

http://www.warbirdalley.com/bf109.htm

Surprisingly, the prototype in 1935 used a Rolls Royce Kestrel engine and the Spanish built ones after the war used Merlins. One of the most numerous of WWII fighter aircraft, only 10 airworthy examples left and two thirds of these are the Spanish built HA-112's. That would leave possibly three originals in flying condition. Over 35,000 built in total.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 06:40
I was at Ellenroad one day on my own on a nice summer day when I heard a familiar sound.  The Battle of Britain flight, Lancaster flanked by a Spit and a Hurricane flew directly over Ellenroad chimney at about 1500 feet.  I can remamber feeling the flesh creeping on my back.  Wonderful.......


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Tizer
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Posted - 09/02/2008 : 18:44
Ian, I saw your comment above "two thirds of these are the Spanish built HA-112's" and I went looking at these on the Web. I had another photo taken at Duxford in the 1980s showing a group of aircraft including some sort of Messerschmidt and this looked like one of those on the web. So I cropped it and placed it here...but now I see it appears to be an Me108, not Me109 - oh well, we might as well have the photo anyway! There is a better photo on the Web here.

By the way, the Dakota at the rear belongs to Air Atlantique - you could read the name on my original 35mm slide. 

Messerschmidt Me108 at Duxford, 1980s


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panbiker
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Posted - 08/03/2008 : 20:25
Well the finger crossing must have worked! The group received an OHMS A4 envelope today from the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight at RAF Coningsby. The envelope contains the flight flypast brief for our sucessful bid for one of the BBMF aircraft. We have been allocated a flypast of Douglas C47 (DC3) Dakota ZA947.
There is still an amount of work to do to secure the flypast. I have to supply a current 1:50 000 OS Landranger map annotated with the venue, 2m airspace exclusion zone around the venue with any potentialy hazardous objects (such as TV masts, pylons etc) clearly marked. Suggested flight path and any other information that may be relevant for the flypast. I also have to inform the CAA of the event so that they can issue air exclusivity for the time slot that the flight will plan into the aircrafts sortie on the day. The flypast will be part of it's coordinated sortie as it will be involved in various other venues and events on the same day.
The aircraft is currently in the livery of 276 'Pegasus" Squadron that flew Transport, Trooping and Re-supply roles in the Middle East and the Mediterranean Theatres during 1943/44. All subject to the weather conditions on the day (Jun 29). We do not have a time for the flypast at this stage as this has yet to be planned into the sortie but every effort will be made to inform the designated display organiser, yours truly, probably on the day.

Full details of the aircraft can be found on the BBMF website along with all the other aircraft maintained by the flight:

http://www.bbmf.co.uk/othertypes.html

All OK so far, will update here as planning develops.


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Stanley
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 07:19
Sounds like a big responsibility!


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gus
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 09:06
Marvelous result Ian for all your efforts, of course you still have quite a bit to do as far as completeing the paperwork process, if, you need any assistance I will be only too glad to help of course.
The dakota c-47 has often been described as one of the most successful military aircraft ever built, known as the "skytrain" once again, great effort, let us hope it all bears fruit, it will really make it a day to remember, for all of barnoldswick.... 


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moh
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 11:06
Sounds like it will be a good day - you must post it on the calendar Ian when you get definite details.


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Tizer
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 11:45
...and those of us who can't be there will look forward to a photo or two of the fly-past!


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gus
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Posted - 09/03/2008 : 11:56
 Believe me there will be more than a photo or two of the whole day...


Gus

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