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Stanley
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This is a continuation of Steeplejack's Next Corner. Click on this link for the older topic:
Jacks Corner Part 3
Stanley Challenger Graham
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stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk
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AlanMc
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 17:26
Victor,
From this Master Boilermaker to you Master Steeplejack
Victor Shackleton-----ALL THE VERY BEST . 
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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 21:30
"Work,the curse of the drinking class" |
TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 21:49
Iam curious,the word "master",its been used for many years,but what does it actually mean,ive always had visions of the plantation owner flogging his slaves or landowner mistreating the serfs,ive tried to google it but no luck??????
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bob hulin
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 22:24
it's not climbing a few old mill chimney stacks round Dukinfield & Ashton. that make you a MASTER STEEPLEJACK. just ask Tony Devlin.
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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 22:28
Jack D was a master steeplejack,it said so in the newspaper once, ..
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bob hulin
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 22:39
 Advert from 1937. Tom. jack D was a MASTER CARPENTER AS WELL.hehe.
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AlanMc
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 23:08
Tom,
Ask J.W.---hehe.
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AlanMc
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Posted - 18/11/2009 : 23:28
To be a Master Boilermaker just means that after practising the trade for almost 50 years, 39 of them as the " rag-in-charge "--and having the full grasp of how to mark out rivet holes in line, flanging loco tubeplates when brim-full of Lancashire Best bitter; suffering from severe "white finger", boilermaker's canker of shoulders and elbows, " Owd Granny knees ",blindness o' left eye, serious dyspepsia and bovine flatulence-----a host of even more distressing maladies---partial incontinence; Libido-finito--and beckoning old age: that's when they ladle out the "Master " bit!!
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eddie
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 02:29
me again,thankyou all for the get well wishes etc,very much appreciated,will try n keep you updated when i get chance,linzi
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victorjack
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 15:46
My thanks to Tizer, Blockman, Stanley, and Alan Mac for their ever loyal support in respect of my eye operation. It is heartwarming to have such encouragement and Blockman himself has endured a most worrying ordeal that he has fought so bravely over the recent years and it is indeed humbling he thinks of others depite what he has gone through. May Eddie too come through his illness safe and sound. I an using a magnifyer to post this message. My eyesight may be very poor yet I still was alert enough to pick up on Bob Hulin's pathetic dig on my 'Masters' degree kindly awarded to me by a Master himself---Alan Mac who himself is a true Master by any standers. This term --Master of course means Expert Craftsman. My father was a mastersteeplejack of the first order. Of that, I have no doubt. He had no peer on chimney repairs and his principal was throughout his life ---"do a thorough and proper job of work and they will use yoi again. Be fair with your prices and your workmen ". Dad put in forty years and he was sparing always in his praise for my input , but in his last year on earth he took me to one side after I had pointed single handed a 250ft stone chimney.. I will never forget his words that evening. "i will put my hands up son" he said. "You have taken over my mantle and I bow to anyone who can do this job better than I ". This was praise indeed from the Master himself and if I did follow his footsteps in following his creed I was proud to do so. I remember mainly of those years with dad as boss, we were never short of work, We never made big profits but we had wages every week . My forty years in the trade carrying out repairs to chimneys spures painting numerous exterios of mill windows and pointing the brick or stone of many mills that led me to be known locally as 'the flashing blade' in refence to my fast but always neat pointing ability that led to the preservation , and heritage people singling me out to point listed buildings throughout the area. I had learned my craft through my dedication and skill acquired over the many years I spent as a steeplejack. My record was impeccable yet I never would have ermed myself a master of my trade and it is gracious of Alan to affix that honour to me freely. I am sure there are many master craftsmen about but I am really content in just doing a good job and gaining a deal of satisfaction from having done that. As for Bob Hulin's mockery in my direction on 100ft chimneys. I never did many of those but many have lost their lives falling from a less height than 100ft and if Bob wants to throw his toys out of his pram that is entirely up to himself. We all have our faults but some,more than others .
Vic.
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Stanley
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 16:47
Vic, I don't think Bob was getting at you. He was making a valid point. I have thrown jacks out of the tendering process many a time. Vastly experienced but lousy jacks. Amazing how some of them managed to stay in business. That's why in the end I found one jack and made sure he got the job. I'll defend that against anyone who tries to lecture me on competitive tendering which has ruined many a job. Quote low and milk the extras doesn't cut it once the dogs are in.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 17:14
Thanks for the explanation Alan,i feel its a term thats lost in todays society as we do no longer doff our caps to the captains of industry,but i have the flatulence of a Bull so iam getting there,..
cheers Linzi,ive still got everything crossed for him...
Very well done Vic with the pointing job ,highly commendable,but where as Bob had a "pathetic dig" at you?????,your name isnt mentioned and your not the only steeplejack by far to have ever come from Tameside...
The national federation of "master steeplejacks" was started by a gang of employers in the trade to get some law and order in around 1946,it didnt work so they changed the name to ATLAS,now they appear to be having some success,far less deaths of workers in the hands of masters..
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swifty
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 19:30
tom ive met afew masters in my time but dont wish to lower the tone , and they werent in the trade , were are you working at present ? bet youre home n dry this week ah ah ,
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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 19:35
Been doing bits and bats at a church in Nelson Swifty,inside work scaffolding,just got back from the fisheries ,I throw worms in the water for a second income,theres 10 guys who work for me,iam the "masterbaiter"hehe
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blokman
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Posted - 19/11/2009 : 19:59
Nice one Tom, do you just toss em into the water....hehehe..
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Steeplejacks Corner Part Four
